John SILVER

John SILVER[1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8]

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  • Name John SILVER  [1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7
    Birth 6 Apr 1856  Maryculter, Kincardine, Scotland Find all individuals with events at this location  [1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 7, 8
    Gender Male 
    Census 1861  Burnside Farm, Kincardine, Scotland, UK Find all individuals with events at this location  [9
    Residence 1861  Maryculter, Kincardineshire, Scotland Find all individuals with events at this location  [1
    • Relation to Head of House: Son
    Census 1871  Crossley, Fetteresso, Kincardine, Scotland Find all individuals with events at this location  [10
    Residence 1871  Fetteresso, Kincardineshire, Scotland Find all individuals with events at this location  [3
    Census 1881  Crossley, Fetteresso, Kincardine, Scotland Find all individuals with events at this location  [11
    Residence 1881  Fetteresso, Kincardineshire, Scotland Find all individuals with events at this location  [5
    Census 1891  Harvieston Farm, Kinneff, Kincardineshire, Scotland Find all individuals with events at this location  [12
    Residence 1891  Kinneff and Catterline, Kincardineshire, Scotland Find all individuals with events at this location  [4
    • Relation to Head of House: Head
    Census 1901  Harvieston Farm, Kinneff, Scotland Find all individuals with events at this location  [13
    Residence 1901  Kinneff and Catterline, Kincardineshire, Scotland Find all individuals with events at this location  [2
    Arrival 5 May 1920  Fremantle, Western Australia, Australia Find all individuals with events at this location  [6
    Departure London, United Kingdom Find all individuals with events at this location  [6
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    Death Unknown 
    • Family information is that he went to New Zealand after moving from Scotland to Queensland, Australia in 1920.
    Person ID I18313083748  NunnSuffolk
    Last Modified 7 Mar 2024 

    Father Alexander SILVER,   b. 14 Nov 1809, Standing Stones, Maryculter, Kincardine, Scotland Find all individuals with events at this locationd. 14 Apr 1882, Crossley, Fetteresso, Kincardine, Scotland Find all individuals with events at this location (Age 72 years) 
    Mother Isabella FALCONER,   b. Abt 1828, Strachan, Kincardineshire, Scotland Find all individuals with events at this locationd. 20 May 1893, Harvieston, Kinneff, Kincardine, Scotland Find all individuals with events at this location (Age 65 years) 
    Marriage 11 Dec 1851  Maryculter, Kincardine, Scotland Find all individuals with events at this location  [14, 15
    Family ID F3074  Group Sheet  |  Family Chart

  • Sources 
    1. [S_1476898574] Ancestry.com, 1861 Scotland Census, (Online publication - Provo, UT, USA: Ancestry.com Operations Inc, 2006.Original data - Scotland. 1861 Scotland Census. Reels 1-150. General Register Office for Scotland, Edinburgh, Scotland.Original data: Scotland. 1861 Scotland Census. Reels 1-150. Genera).
      Birth date: abt 1856
      Birth place: Maryculter, Kincardinesh
      Residence date: 1861
      Residence place: Maryculter, Kincardineshire, Scotland

    2. [S_1470127850] Ancestry.com, 1901 Scotland Census, (Online publication - Provo, UT, USA: Ancestry.com Operations Inc, 2007.Original data - Scotland. 1901 Scotland Census. Reels 1-446. General Register Office for Scotland, Edinburgh, Scotland.Original data: Scotland. 1901 Scotland Census. Reels 1-446. Genera).
      Birth date: abt 1857
      Birth place: Maryculter, Kincardineshire
      Residence date: 1901
      Residence place: Kinneff and Catterline, Kincardineshire, Scotland

    3. [S_1476898566] Ancestry.com, 1871 Scotland Census, (Online publication - Provo, UT, USA: Ancestry.com Operations Inc, 2007.Original data - Scotland. 1871 Scotland Census. Reels 1-191. General Register Office for Scotland, Edinburgh, Scotland.Original data: Scotland. 1871 Scotland Census. Reels 1-191. Genera).
      Birth date: abt 1857
      Birth place: Maryculter, Kincardineshire
      Residence date: 1871
      Residence place: Fetteresso, Kincardineshire, Scotland

    4. [S_1470127848] Ancestry.com, 1891 Scotland Census, (Online publication - Provo, UT, USA: Ancestry.com Operations Inc, 2007.Original data - Scotland. 1891 Scotland Census. Reels 1-409. General Register Office for Scotland, Edinburgh, Scotland.Original data: Scotland. 1891 Scotland Census. Reels 1-409. Genera).
      Birth date: abt 1857
      Birth place: Maryculter, Kincardineshire
      Residence date: 1891
      Residence place: Kinneff and Catterline, Kincardineshire, Scotland

    5. [S_1471631227] Ancestry.com, 1881 Scotland Census, (Online publication - Provo, UT, USA: Ancestry.com Operations Inc, 2007.Original data - Scotland. 1881 Scotland Census. Reels 1-338. General Register Office for Scotland, Edinburgh, Scotland.Original data: Scotland. 1881 Scotland Census. Reels 1-338. Genera).
      Birth date: abt 1856
      Birth place: Maryculter, Kincardineshire
      Residence date: 1881
      Residence place: Fetteresso, Kincardineshire, Scotland

    6. [S_890656225] Ancestry.com, Fremantle, Western Australia, Passenger Lists, 1897-1963, (Ancestry.com Operations, Inc.), National Archives of Australia; Queen Victoria Terrace, Parkes ACT 2600.; Inward passenger manifests for ships and aircraft arriving at Fremantle, Perth Airport and Western Australian outports from 1897-1963; Series Number: K 269; Reel Number: 40.

    7. [S166629691] Ancestry.com, Scotland, Select Births and Baptisms, 1564-1950, (Ancestry.com Operations, Inc.).

    8. .
      1856 births in the parish of Maryculter, Kincardine
      No 11 SILVER, John. 1856 April sixth at 6.10pm at Burnside, Maryculter, male. Father: Alexander SILVER, farm. Mother: Isobel SILVER maiden name FALCONER. Witness: Alex Silver father, present
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    9. .
      1861 census for Burnside Farm, Maryculter:
      Alexander Silver, aged 51, farmer Of 60 acres born Maryculter
      Isabel Silver 32
      Alexander Silver 2
      Hellen Silver 8
      Isabel M Silver 10 Mo
      John Silver 5
      John Copland 14
      Harriet Findlay 19
      John Irmay 15
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    10. .
      1871 census for Crossley, Fetteresso, Kincardine:
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      Alexander Silver head married 61 farmer of 150 Acres 80 Arable Employs 2 Men 2 woman born Maryculter, Kincardine
      Isabella Silver wife married 44 years born Strachan, Kincardine
      Hellen Silver daughter unmarried 18 farmer's daughter Maryculter, Kincardine
      John Silver son 14 farmer's son Maryculter, Kincardine
      Alexander Silver son 12 scholar Maryculter, Kincardine
      Isabella M Silver daughter 10 Maryculter, Kincardine
      James Silver son 7 Maryculter, Kincardine
      Ann Fraser servant 16 domestic servant Fetteresso, Kincardine
      Robert McKilligan servant unmarried 29 Nigg
      William Duncan servant 14 farm servant Glatt? Aberdeenshire
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    11. .
      1881 British Census Dwelling: crossley Census Place: Fetteresso, Kincardine, Scotland<BR>
      Alexander SILVER M 71 M Maryculter, Kincardine, Scotland Rel: Head<BR>
      occ: Farmer Of 120 Acres 80 Arable Employs 2 Men 2 Girls 1 Boy<BR>
      lsabella SILVER M 53 F Strachan, Kincardine, Scotland Rel: Wife<BR>
      Hellen SILVER U 28 F Maryculter, Kincardine, Scotland Rel: Daur<BR>
      John SILVER U 25 M Maryculter, Kincardine, Scotland Rel: Son<BR>
      Alexander SILVER U 22 M Maryculter, Kincardine, Scotland Rel: Son<BR>
      lsabella SILVER U 20 F Maryculter, Kincardine, Scotland Rel: Daur<BR>
      John ROBERTSON U 14 M Banchory Devenick, Kincardine, Scotlan Rel: Servant<BR><hr>

    12. .
      1891 census for Harvieston
      John Silver 34, head, born Maryculter
      Isabella F Silver, mother, aged 63, born, Strachan, Kincardineshire
      Alexander Silver, brother, 32 born Maryculter
      Isabella M Silver, sister, 20 born Maryculter
      Helen Stewart 16, servant, born Kinneff
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    13. .
      Civil, Ecclesiastical and School Board District of Parish of Kinneff and Catterline

      59
      Harvieston Farm 1 house
      John Silver Head Single 44 Farmer Employer, Born Kincardineshire, Maryculter (dwelling has seven rooms with one or more windows)
      Isabella M Silver Sister Single 40 years Housekeeper. Born Kincardineshire, Maryculter
      Mary Mackie Servant Single 20 years Farm Servant (Domestic) Worker. Born Kincardineshire, Fetteresso
      John Robie Servant Single 15 years Ploughman Worker Born Kincardineshire, Dunnotar

      60
      Harvieston Farm
      Alexander Silver Head Married 47 years Farmer Employer. Born Kincardineshire, Maryculter
      Ellen J Silver Wife Married 35 years Farmer's Wife Born Kincardineshire, Kinneff
      Alexander Silver Son 6 years Scholar. Born Kincardineshire, Kinneff
      John Silver Son 4 years Scholar Born Kincardineshire, Kinneff
      James Silver Son 3 years. Born Kincardineshire, Kinneff
      Isabella M. Silver, daughter 11 months. Born Kincardineshire, Kinneff
      Winnie<?> McIntosh Servant Single 16 years General Servant (Domestic) Born Kincardineshire, Kinneff<hr>
      Extracts from ACC 6/54/5 - Harveston Estate Committee - Sederunt Book, 1889-1907<br>
      9th March 1903
      Provost Melvin, Convener and R. Hoye Millar Esq <br>
      Committee considered correspondence auent <old Scottish for included>
      remunerating or acknowledging the service of parties who assisted at the extinguishing of the fire at Harvieston Mains Steading <farm out house> on 31st January 1902, and authorised and instructed the Factor to remit Mr Adam Watt, Hilton, eight pounds ten shillings to distribute among the seventeen persons named in his letter of 2nd Ulto, that allowance having been recommended by Mr Alexander Silver.<br>
      W F Melvin, Convener. <br>
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      26th February 1904<br>
      Provost Melvin convener and Mr John Cameron<br>
      The Clerk submitted offer from George Stephen Catterline for making drain at Mains of Harvieston suggested by the tenant and approved by Mr Calder, Seaton of Usan, for about 600 yards, 200 yards to be of 4 inch pipes, and 400 yards of 3 inch pipes, at the rate of 17 shillings per one hundred and Mr Calder being present having state that the whole cost would not exceed 10 pounds, the committee authorised the work to be carried out. <br>
      W.F.Melvin, Convener. <br>
      <hr>
      3rd April 1905<br>
      Provost Melvin (convener) and Alexander Thomson Esq<br>
      The Factor reported the result of the advertising for offers for Brystanes, and after considering the offer of Mr David Watt, Overton, Kinneff, the committee instructed the Factor to arrange the term of a lease with him for nineteen years from Martinmas at Fifty four pounds of yearly rent and to report.<br>
      W.F.Melvin convener.<br>
      <hr>
      26th April 1905<br>
      Provost Melvin (convener) and Alexander Thomson Esq <br>
      The draft lease of Brigstanes was examined and approved, and Factor instructed to have same transcribed and signed by Mr Watt, the tenant and his Cautioner <legal counsel>, and reported at meeting of trust on 4th provo for subscription by Governors.<br>
      W.F.Melvin convener<br>
      <hr>
      7th September 1907<br>
      W Melvin (convener) Major Millar & Bailie Thomson<br>
      Letter of 5 inst from McKinnar Sol. <solicitor> Stonehaven apoint for trustees of the late Mr Alex. Silver, Joint Tenant in Harvieston submitted & considered. Committee favourable, if suitable tenant found, to an arrangement for changes of tenancy at Martinmas first, and instructed Factor to advertise farm for a 19 year lease and to report offer.
      W.F.Melvin <br>
      <hr>
      25 September 1907<br>
      W. Melvin (convener) and Major Millar.<br>
      Offers for Harvieston submitted viz 4 each 300 pounds of most 1 @ 290 pounds, 1 @ 280 pounds, 1 @ 302 pounds, 2 @ 270 pounds, 1 @ 319 pounds 10 shillings and one from Messrs Les & Wm Douglas, Auquhorthies in Cowie Estate 320 pounds; and Factor instructed to make special enquiries as to the highest two offers.
      <br>
      W F Melvin <br>
      <hr>
      This is a letter from Alex Silver (born 1858, so he would have been 34) to his brother James in Australia, written in 1892, just before James married Janet Todd on August 12, 1892.

      Harvieston June 19th 1892

      My Dear Brother,
      You will be thinking I have forgotten you, being so long in writing. There is no excuse. But I will try and make amends by giving you a long one. Firstly I will give you an account of ourselves. We are all enjoying good health. Mother (Isobella, nee Falconer b 1828, d 1893) is still in England but we expect her home by the end of this month. Helen (Alex's sister born 1852) has got another son (Helen and Alex had two girls also who are mentioned in their grandmother's will) they are both doing well. Alex (Seems to mean Helen's husband Alex) and family has shifted again back to the Master he was with about a year ago, Jock King.
      Joseph Duncan (possibly Alex Duncan's brother) and I were up at England in March and stopped a week with them. We went with Mother and enjoyed ourselves very much. They seemed to be very comfortable and the children were very nice and smart.
      You will be anxious to hear how we are getting on with our farm. Well we had a very good crop last year but lost a lot of our stock and a good horse (the blue one) worth about £50 yet on the whole it has paid pretty well. Everything is looking very well this summer. There is every appearance of an abundant crop. We have taken for the summer's grass a large haugh near Bervie (shortened form of Inverbervie about 3km from Kinneff?). For which we pay £105 and have 48 cattle & horses in it.
      John Watt (probably one of the Watt family of Hilton, Kinneff), my brother John and I were down at it last night and were highly satisfied with it.
      We had about 30 ewes in lamb this season, they had nearly 50 lambs, sold twenty of the lambs for 30s each not 3 months old.
      You will get them much cheaper in Australia. Sold 4 ewes for 45s each. This will let you know the difference between the price here and where you are.
      Now for our friends. Suppose you will have heard by this time that we have lost a few of them last winter.
      David Bisset (who was married to their father's sister Jane Silver) and Alex Esson (who was married to their father's other sister Helen Silver) and last but not least, poor Old Grand Ma (his mother's mother, Jessie Falconer nee Menzies). All highly respected and God-fearing men and women. And I have no doubt it is well with them all. However we are still getting more.
      George Grey was married last Monday. John and I were at the marriage and we had a grand affair. He has married to his house keeper, a nice and very managing girl but I forget her name in the meantime.
      All the Martins (probably their mother's sister Helen's family) were there. Uncle William & Alexander (probably their mother's brothers) from Newtonleys. The Martins are getting on in their usual way, very well, They had a letter from Alex (Silver, son of their mother's sister Mary Ann and their father's third cousin James Silver) in America, he seems to be doing much better.
      I may say a word all our Dunnottar (about 9km north of Kinneff) friends are in their usual health. Sandy is still the same old boy which is a pity. Peter from Newtonhill (about 20km north of Kinneff) was also there and seemed to enjoy himself immensely. He is expecting the Sharps back to stay with him this summer as usual.
      Our friend Robert Ruxton has left him this term. Think he is going to Aberdeen.
      We had Alex Silver (the same first cousin as mentioned above) home from America about a month ago and he came over and stayed with us for about a week. He and James* (his brother) are getting on grandly in America. James has just got a situation worth about £300 per year.
      Mrs Silver (Annie Findlay who was married to above James*) was over with him at Harvieston (name of the Silver farm at Kinneff) also. They went away both together (It seems strange her husband didn't travel with Annie but this is confirmed by immigration records). Mr Grey was saying there was a painful scene when she went away, quite as bad as the first time she went away.
      Jonny Findlay (This is Annie Findlay's brother who, according to Findlay descendant John Findlay who advises that "John Milne Findlay came to Australia with his brother William Duthie Findlay in 1882. They were Annie Findlay Silver's older brothers. John returned to Scotland and married there, and he and his wife had three sons. His wife died, as did the youngest son, and he was advised to return to Australia, for health reasons, which he did in 1905, with the two older boys, who were reared by his brother William and his wife. My Great Uncle John, died in his nineties.") is home just now from Australia after being away for ten years. He was looking very well, quite stout. Hope you are getting the same.
      Uncle James (Silver who married their mother's sister Mary Ann Falconer) is still road surveyor. Auntie Mary (aforementioned James's wife) is still the same kind old soul and not much changed.
      William Bisset (first cousin and son of their father's sister Helen who married David Bisset) is still farming Wedderhill but isn't going to stop long. He had taken Parkhead but William Anderson (no relationship established but is mentioned in abovementioned David Bisset's will of 1892), who has failed again, is still staying on.
      Your friends are all well at Bankhead (there are two Bankheads, one just out of Aberdeen and another, about 20km west and to the north of Banchory).
      I am intending to go up soon and will give you a fuller account of them in my next. Do you ever hear from or see John and William? (no guess on their identity)
      Old Mr Watt of Hilton has passed away this spring (In February, 1894, Alex was married to Ellen Jane Watt of Hilton, Kinneff, daughter of John Watt of Hilton).
      Really I never heard of so many deaths as there were here about last Winter & Spring. The rest of our friends there are all well and are often asking about you.
      26th June
      It is now another week since I wrote the rest of this letter. Mother came home last night a little fatigued with the long journey but all right and going about today. She says the little Duncans (children of Alex and Helen {nee Silver} Duncan) are all keeping better. Alex & Helen are well also and fairly established in their new home. We are just on the eve of a general Election and it is thought by the most of people that the Grand Old Man will stand a good chance of being Prime Minister (William Gladstone who was British Prime Minister in 1868-74, 1880-85, 1886 and 1892-4). You will no doubt hear all about it before this reaches you in your far-away home. Well, how are you getting on in that land of your adoption? Are you married? (James Silver married Janet Todd in Brisbane, Queensland, Australia in August 1892) Yet I hope so & all things quite comfortable. I must say that I thought a great deal of your young lady the two or three days she stayed with us. May you both be long spared to each other and lead a long, happy and prosperous life. This is about all the news I have for you at this time, so I hope that this will find you all right, goodbye.

      Mother, Bella, John & Myself all join with best wishes and king regards for (may I say) Mr and Mr Silver.
      Your loving brother, Alex Silver.
      P.S. Mother bids me tell you to write soon.

      Peace perfect peace with loved ones far way
      In Jesus keeping we are safe & they
      Alex Silver <hr>
      In 1930, Isobel, whose married name was Duncan, lived at 24 Queens Road, Stonehaven, Scotland. She married John Duncan, a widower, in 1905 and at that time, aged 46, she was still a spinster. She was living at Harvieston, Kinneff, with brothers Alex and John.
      Following is text of letter she wrote in 1918 with comments in brackets:

      Letter from Isabella Duncan (This is James Silver's sister and she would have been 58 when this was written)

      Chesterhill, Banchory, Nov 9th 1918

      My Dear Brother & Sister,

      I see your last letter to me was written on the 8th of April. Well I hope you are all well as this finds us so. I had a letter from Jack (this is her brother John Silver who apparently left Scotland possibly for Australia about 1907 but about whom little else is known) this week which I answered. We have had rather sad news to tell you this day week we had a wire from James Silver (her nephew, the son of her late brother Alex) that John (her nephew, also Alex's son) was killed in action on 24th of Oct. He had only been out about two months and I had a letter from that he was getting on A1. I couldn't tell you how sorry we are about him and we haven't had a good night's sleep since we heard but we must not grieve; he and Alex (another of her late brother Alex's son who was killed in action at Ypres on Saturday, September 25, 1915 aged 21. He was a private with the 4th Bn, Gordon Highlanders) too have died nobly for their king and country. I just feel a little sore when I think it was so near the end of the war. But I will soon be looking forward to meeting them in a far better country. Poor James (her nephew who sent the wire b 1898 d 1973 in Queensland, Australia) is feeling it very much and he was always afraid John (his brother) would never come back and he would be left alone. I am going into Aberdeen on Monday "it is rent day so I have to go whatever", so I am hoping to see him. John was 22 and there will not be any fear about James being called up I think. I do hope your John (Jack Silver, of Australia, b 1897 d 1977) will get safe home again. I wrote and asked him to come here and see us before he goes back (Jack did visit Bella at Stonehaven). He was anxious about getting some heather so I sent him a wee bit I had in the house and promised to send more soon. Mr Duncan (her husband, John) has been keeping quite strong for a good while and always working busy. I am very glad to have him for my friends are getting thinner. I am going to see Aunty Mary (her mother's sister Mary Ann Falconer who was married to her father's third cousin James Silver) on Monday. We had Mrs Milne, the late Miss Anderson & Kitee this week. I was showing them your photos, they thought you were growing like our father and I think that too. I was minding what Alex our brother (Alex Silver b 1858, d 1907) said when Jim (James Silver above who sent the wire) was born. I am determined this one will be named after one of my folks, so he was called after you. I hope he will be spared. He is much stronger than he used to be and is very tall, a very friendly boy. We are having a rather hard time of it everything is such a price and we cannot get milk for love nor money. But this will be the worst winter now things will right themselves in a year or two. Eggs are 6 shillings each. We are thankful we have still Miss Walker and there are plenty of summer visitors to Banchory (west of Aberdeen) if we wanted Miss Walker. She is not very good to do with sometimes, that's why we have her one of her own nieces said this summer. Mrs Duncan (hard to know for sure if this Mrs Duncan is connected to her husband's family) should get the military cross of the highest order for keeping Miss Walker so long. I will need to bring my yarn to a close. With love and XXX to you all.
      I am your loving sister, Isabella Duncan


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    14. [S_889595624] Ancestry.com, Scotland, Select Marriages, 1561-1910, (Ancestry.com Operations, Inc.).

    15. .
      Maryculter marriages 1851: Silver and Falconer. Alexander Silver in this parish and Isobel Falconer in the parish of Fetterresso were matrimonially contracted on the 28th November 1851 and after proclamation of banns were married on the 11th December 1851 by the Rev John Bowen, in presence of witnesses.<hr>